Thursday, May 30, 2013

The Voynich manuscript: the Senses

Ear, eyes and nose may be represented in the drawings of fol. 83r and 83v of the Voynich Manuscript.









20 comments:

  1. Hi again, Ellie:

    I've translated the opening remarks on vms f83v which translate to the latin words for the balneareaesum (bath-house). The commentary below the globular mandragore fruits are discussing the anesthetic/anesthesiological effects of drinking the diluted fruit juice of that very important plant. Folio 83v is all about the care of young females during their child-bearing years. Those "labels" which appear below each fruit translate to ox-ox-as-geus: to blind, darken, hide, numb... and otl-os-ec-egeus: leisure, take it easy, to ease (labor pains?) An interesting aside (my research) was that the undiluted fruit juice could act as an abortifacient/birth control method.

    The big P-word at the beginning of the discussion translates to the Latin word for bath-house: bal-ne-ari-us-a-meus.

    By the time I finished with just those few translations, I was ready to crawl into my own "bath-house" for a long soak, and a nap! I didn't need any "fruit juice" to settle my nerves and put me to sleep!

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  2. Hi BD, I agree it could be mandrake fruit. Until we know for sure any alternative is welcome.

    All the best! Ellie

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  3. Hi Ellie Velinska, ( manuscript 77v)

    You know what the left picture : middle ?
    It looks like a scooter ( aguatic).

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  4. Hi, Josef, this is new for me. Thanks for stopping by. That lady on 77v sure is riding something - could be a water jet :)

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  5. If you think see eye to 83v page, it gives me courage to continue my efforts, confirming my transcription of the corresponding label. I see in this label the slavic word "oko" - the eye.
    Ruby

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  6. Hi Ellie. ( characters - SoSoRae).
    Gematrie - SoSoRae = Golo Kye. ( Golo = Balls. Kye = cudgel,baton.)
    This is a slang expression ( Big penis).(Men's genitals).
    A woman stands is the eggs.
    In the second meaning. Characters are read. ( Co corae). What piss. ( This means what urinates).

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  7. Hi Rubi, how do you get oko? The label would be something like okokary/okokarus in this case.

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    1. http://readingvoynich.wordpress.com/2013/02/21/les-mots-slaves-dans-le-manuscrit/

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    2. Hi Rubi, very interesting. I still don't understand what rule do you use to convert the same symbol into L or K to get okolara. I apologize, I tried Google Translate, but it didn't help me much.
      All the best!

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    3. I have not found all the letters of the alphabet, but I proposed for this page letters k and l, very different, just look carefully. The first part of the word should be "oko" - eye.
      Ruby

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  8. Hi Josef. There is another theory (not mine) that these are not eyes, but testicles, so you may be right.

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  9. Hi Ellie. ( Note : See page 2r.)
    Plant root. At the beginning of the manuscript, the author shows gematria. The root consists of the letters. C,G,S,L. ( gematria number 3). The manuscript is used gematria. A old Czech language. Rosenberg was Jewish. The manuscript describes the Czech history. A secret information of the Rosenbergs.
    I translated half of the manuscript.
    So, I know. Woko Rosenberg ( Czech wiki).
    Slang old Czech language. Eyes = Woko, Vok. The family Rosenbergs were many men names Vok ( Eyes).
    The last descendant of the family was Petr Vok. Then the family died.

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  10. Hi Josef, I'll take a look at your translation. I noticed that in your alphabet you have the same symbol for B,R and K. How do you know which one is which - is there a rule that you discovered? My own attempt shows Slavic language, but it is likely that I just project Slavic into meaningless string of symbols, since my native language is Bulgarian (I also speak Russian).

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  11. Hi Ellie. The entire manuscript is written in the Czech language. It is Slavic language.

    Gematria number 2. (B,R,K). Look at the character. It looks like number 2.
    The entire manuscript is not used character : U,V,X,W.
    (Number 6). This is a special author.
    Instructions for decryption is written in multiple places manuscript. On the first page. On the final page ( 116). I found it in many places in the manuscript.
    It is always written in Czech language.
    The manuscript began Silesian piastovna Anna Hlohovská. Wife of John II. of Rosenberg. The last record did Petr Vok. Last Rosenbergs.

    Who does not know the Czech language. Can not decipher handwriting.

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  12. Hi Josef, I see 2 is B. 20 is K and 200 is R. So what is zero? Do you have a chart representing what symbol or combination of symbols represent what number in gematria?
    Very interesting!

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  13. Hi Ellie. No zero. Wrong you understand. Look at the sing letter R. (in manuscript). The letter R is similar to number 2. Where is the letter R. R is read, or the B, or letter K. (no zero).
    Encryptien is very complicated. Read characters is not enough. Writing in the manuscript is not complete. In the written text must write a lot of characters. What characters are. It is writte on page 116. ( Cod)!
    Characters are written for the author of the specified character. (letter).
    Because the instructions and the manuscript written in the Czech language. Nobody has a chance to decipher handwriting. Neither Pelling,Zandbergen,Richi, Diana, and other.

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  14. Hi Josef, I agree that Czech is a big possibility. Can I ask: from your translations - what is the text about - is it connected to the illustrations or not - what is the story you get from your translation?

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  15. Hi Ellie. ( real name manuscript = Acta).(cech language Akta).
    Onthe last page of the manuscript is written. The manuscript can understand and decipher only Jew. ( Only Jew !).

    The manuscript is important to understand Jewish thinking.
    I'll shows you the example of words ,,Roots,,.( root).
    The root of the Hebrew says Jada. Meaning words Jada = Know. This is the meaning of roots in the manuscript. ( Root = Know).

    I'll show you the word collar.
    The Middle Ages = collar. ( Pleated collar).
    Mesentery. ( Czech language = Okruží). Mesentery is drawn in many places in the manuscript. Word mesentery shows = Ok Rose. Ok means Wok ( Vok).( Vok = Oko). Rose is Rose. Vok Rose. Vok Rosenberg. (nobleman). The genus is known as the Lords of roses.
    The richest and most important genus Czech history in the Middle Ages.

    Info - http://zlatodej.blog.cz/rubrika/rozety-86v

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    1. Hello Joseph!
      Can you advise us a dictionary of the Czech language in the Middle Ages?
      Ruby

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